Time for post #2. All I have to say is that this scares me. Also, the most exciting thing of my day just occurred: I tried a persimmon. I'd always heard of this mythical fruit, but I'd never seen nor tasted it. It really wasn't worth the wait. It was really sweet, and had a mushy texture not unlike eating play-doh. So, in conclusion, ixnay on the ersimmonspay.